| Otto Piechowski | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: Sept. 1, 2001, 12:30 AM EDT Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Lexington, KY, USA Site classification: suburban Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: 60º F., still, some humidity Telescope: 150 mm Mak-cass Eyepieces: 11.4mm, 7mm, 5mm, 4mm Magnification: Star: 37 Pegasi
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I am not sure. From
time to time it felt like a faint bluish star was huddled next to
the primary in or near one of the diffraction rings. But then, with
instability of the atmosphere it would totally disappear.
A little touch of elongation,
perhaps in an east west direction, maybe a bit more of an east by northeast
direction.
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| Richard Harshaw | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: September 5, 2001, 0230 to 0510 UT Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparncy: 6 to 7 (variable, due to high hazy clouds) <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Northern Kansas City, Missouri (USA). 39º15' N, 94º30'W 980 ft above Mean Sea Level Site classification: suburban Sky darkness: -- <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Celestron C-8, C-11 Magnification: 112x, 207x, 560x Harshaw Scale: 5 <1-5; 1 best> |
STF 2912 (Alias 37
Peg)
HD Number 213235 ADS 15988 Position: 2230+0426 Rating: 5 Components: A: 5.8m, F5 IV B: 7.1m, F2 V, 1 +” @ 116 + Year of last AB Measure: 1969 Distance (l.y.): 172, Luminosity (Suns): 14.6 Observed colors: W, W Observations: C8: Observed
at 207x. Notched.
Notes: First measure (1831)
by F. W. Struve: 1.2" @ 113. 1911 (Bryant), 0.3" @ 112.
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| Luis Argüelles, Tim Leese, Ana Fernández, Paolo Morini & John Ryan | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date: 14th, September 2001 (2nd Meeting "Spirit of 33") Time: 22:30 - 23:30 UT Location of site: Sena de Luna, Spain 42.55N, 05 57W Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 8-9 Other conditions: No wind. No Moon Temperature: 9ºC Altitude: 1,200 mts (3,940 ft) Site classification: Rural Sky darkness: 6.0 <Limiting magnitude> Telescopes: Vixen 4" f/10 achro refractor & Televue 101 4" f/5.6 Apo refractor Eyepieces: 35mm, 10mm and 3.8mm Baader Planetarium Eudiascopics (used on Vixen) Diagonal: Televue mirror diagonal. Used magnification for study: 263x (Vixen) Altitude of star at observing time (end): +50° 55' 11" Azimuth of star at observing time (end): 180° 39' 12" Mount used: Vixen GP Locating aids: Skysensor 2000-PC with 3 points alignment. Maximum precision. Confidence in positive identification of Star: 100% |
This tight double is located
and centered at 28x, then at 100x and finally I increase magnification
up to 263x. The star is observed for a period of time of one hour in order
to conduct an in-depth study of it.
After using every observing trick, Tim Leese and I (Luis Argüelles), observe a suspected elongation with the Vixen when the seeing is at its best. We are not using a microguide eyepiece, but perfectly agree in observing the components aligned at a "ten o'clock" position. When we speak about "suspected elongation", we are describing a sensation, a "feeling" in the limits of our experience. In fact, this is the most difficult and from the "nutcracker-class" double star I've ever observed. Very interestingly, we observe (and perfectly agree on it) a slight difference of coloration on the suspected elongated components, perceiving them as yellow and white. Ana Fernandez joins us and also agrees on this difference of coloration. Having into account the special sensitivity of Ana to coloration, confirmed by a lot of positive identifications in colors while observing doubles, we start to suspect we have got a confirmation of duplicity on 37 Peg. Nevertheless, we are not 100% sure, because the Vixen has some residual chromatic aberration, and while it only appears on the brightest stars (37 Peg shouldn't show chromatic aberration at magnitudes 5.8 and 7.1), we are afraid to make a mistake and we decide to observe again this star on next night. Spectral class: But is John Ryan who observes 37 Peg on the night of 15th, September, 2001 with his apochromatic refractor. While he is not able to observe elongation at about 180x, he confirms us the perception of colors white and yellow on this double, so we eliminate our doubts on the issue of chromatic aberration from the 4" Vixen. Very interestingly, and prior to John Ryan confirming this coloration with his APO refractor on saturday night, I rang Rafael Barberá to his home in Valencia on Saturday, 15th September morning after having breakfast in order to ask him to consult his databases for spectral classes of the 37 Peg's components. I must say that only 15 minutes later, Rafael rang me back at the Hotel in Sena de Luna, giving me data from 4 different catalogues (it's impressive how our Group works about exchanging information!). All the data were suggesting white components for this pair, so the first sensation was to think about chromatic aberration on my refractor. "What did you all drink for supper last night?", Rafa asked me in his tipical good sense of humour. "Only water for supper. We are proffesional observers, you know!" Anyway, Rafa also told me one of the components of 37 Peg is itself a spectroscopic double with the following data from the Bright Star Catalogue: Spectral Type: F5IV+F7IV, also classified A7m. K,M, met indicate A8, F1, F2 (main components at about 0.6 seconds of arc separation). Spectroscopy binary: A4, F8, ADS 15988A (Morbey and Griffin, 1987, ApJ, 317, 343) So that spectroscopic binary maybe was producing an interesting effect of coloration, but this would be a bit hard to believe hypothesis. After exchanging some e-mails on monday 17th, September, Rafa was intrigued about this issue, and researching his database of papers, he sent me in the morning of 18th September, a paper in pdf format written by Anne P. Cowley (University of Michigan) and David L. Crawford (Kitt Peak National Observatory) published by the Astronomical Society of the Pacific in 1971 tittled "Classification of some bright stars with unusual spectra". Very very interestingly, one of the stars with a revised spectra from the list inside the article was 37 Pegasi!!. The entry for this intriguing doubles reads as: Name: 37 Peg
So it seems that there is indeed a subtle difference of coloration between the main component of 37 Pegasi (it would be an A7m+F7 IV pair), and thus, producing enogh difference of coloration that would match rather well the observed yellow and white colors using our telescopes. Separation: On sunday, 16th, and using Cor's software, I simulate 37 Peg at the computer with a separation of 0.7 seconds of arc, obtaining an image close to the perception we had at 263x. Also, the apparent position angle perfectly matches the "ten o'clock" description. That figure of 0.7" would represent a Couteau's factor of about 0.5r, where r is the theoretical resolving power of a 4" telescope, and that factor would correspond to a really small elongation. But on the night of 18th
September, and using the same software, I simulate several separations
from 0.9 seconds of arc going down to 0.4 seconds in steps of 0.1 seconds
of arc. After observing the images in my computer's monitor I need to "tighten
the belts in my chair". What I observe is an excellent match between the
0.4 seconds of arc image and the observation I made of 37 Peg!!. Very excited,
I sent Tim by e-mail that set of images in order to ask him about his opinion
without telling him my judgement in order to give a no biased data. Quickly
he replied me, informing that his best match was from the 0.5 seconds of
arc image.
After that, I did some research on the Hipparcos Catalogue. Hipparcos gives the following data for separation in 37 Peg.: DC27 : 0.592 Separation from reference component, varrho (arcsec) DC29 : -0.021 Rate of change of varrho, dvarrho/dt (arcsec/yr) Since data for Hipparcos seems to have been taken in J1991.25 epoch and our observation is from J2001.75, there is a diference of 10.5 years. Taking into account the -0.021 seconds of arc variation in separation between components every year, that yields 0,221 seconds less with respect to J1991.25, yielding a preliminar result of 0.372 seconds of arc. Anyway, the Hipparcos observing interval was of 3.3 years, so there is a direct and implicit uncertainty of 3.3 * 0.021 = 0.063 seconds of arc, that in the "upper" situation would yield: 0.372 + 0.063 = 0.435 seconds of arc. And this is not far from the 0.45 seconds of arc observed mean from Tim and me! As a summary, the in-depth observation and study of 37 Pegasi offers us enough information to stay confident in identificating it as a double-star using a 4" refractor. Also, our personal guess, based on the very small perceived elongation and pattern-matching processes using Cor's software, is that actual separation between components should be around 0.45 seconds of arc. Impressive for a 4" refractor,
we think. In fact, even now it's difficult to believe for ourselves. But,
given perfect skies and concentration while observing, it's achievable.
From now on, main optics are not in the telescope for us: they are in the
sky!
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| Jim Phillips | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: Oct. 3th, 2001, 8:30-9:30 EDT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Charleston, South Carolina, USA Site classification: Suburban. Temperature: 70ºF Sky darkness: --- <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: AP 155 F/7 Apochromat Magnification: 214x, 343x Star: 37 Pegasi
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Whew! Not sure I was able
to see anything except possibly a slightly elongate image.
An all out assault using
all eyepieces and barlow. With 10mm (343X) I thought I could elongate the
image. Not a figure 8 just a little elongate. At 429X (16mm plus 2x
Ambience: A few mosquitoes buzzing around. |
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| William Schart | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: October 7, 2001 2123 and 22:00 CDT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Killeen, Texas, USA Site classification: Suburban. Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Celestron-8 Eyepieces: 25mm, 10mm, CMG Magnification: 80x, 200x, 165x |
I broke the order of the
list to take a look at this, since it has generated much traffic of late.
At high power it was elongated somewhat, but not cleanly split. I think
that I need to tweak my collimation somewhat, but not tonight. It appeared
yellow.
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| PJ Anway | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: Oct. 11, 2001 02:00 UT Seeing: 6, with brief moments of 7 to 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Munising, Michigan, USA Site classification: Rural Sky darkness: 5.8 <Limiting magnitude> Sky condition: No moon or clouds, extensive Aurora activity Temperature: 41°F 5°C Telescope: Celestron C11, f/10 & Zeiss AS 100mm, f/10 refractor Eyepieces: Vixen 25mm, 12.5mm, 9mm, 7mm orthoscopics & 2.4X barlow Magnification: C11: 112X & 224X AS 100: 111X, 143X, 266X & 343X |
37 Pegasi was easy to locate
just a little southeast of Theta.
I began with the C11 for the most "fire power", but soon realized that with it, the seeing would not bear more than 200X. I then switched to the 4" hoping the smaller aperture would fair better by trying to sneak between the atmospheric cells........ it did. However, as I worked my way through the eyepieces, first at 111X and 143X, then barlowed to 266X and 343X, I soon realized the brief moments of steadiness were to short to study a double of this small separation for duplicity. No split at this time, will try again when the sun is more cooperative and a night of better seeing would also help. Luis and Tim - I appreciate
even more your accomplishment at Sena de Luna!
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| Thad Robosson | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: Saturday, Oct 13th, 2001 Seeing: 6.5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: "All Arizona Star Party" 32º27.687N, 111º 43.787 W Site classification: Rural Transparency: 7 <1-10 Scale (10 best)> Sky darkness: -- <Limiting magnitude>: Telescope: 8" f/6 reflector Magnification: -- |
While attending the All
Arizona Star Party, I attempted the "challenge" object 37 Pegasi.
This sub-arcsecond ( .6" I believe) pair was spied as a double by a trio
of observers in Sena de Luna, Spain with 4" refractors in seeing of 9~10.
I keep hoping that either I get seeing that good, or that 8" of aperature
will make up for it. No such luck this time, the seeing never really
allowed me to get above 125x for this point source object. I still
have a month or so before I'm banished to next year's round of attempts.
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| Tim Leese | ||||
| Star:
37 Pegasi
Date & Time: 12,18/October/2001 22:00-23:00 UT Seeing: 6-7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Northwich, Cheshire. UK. 53° 15' N -2º 33' W Site classification: Suburban Conditions: Clear spell with drifting high haze. Sky darkness: 3.0 ( UMi ) <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 200mm f/6 Newtonian reflector mounted over a Vixen GP mount (manual slow motion). Eyepieces: 5mm Vixen Lanthanum, X2 shorty barlow. Magnification: X240, X480 |
I attacked 37 Peg
using my Vixen Lanthanum, giving X240 magnification, keeping the star in
view for as long as I could by letting it drift across the FOV many
times. I couldn't split 37 Peg into its components but got a
definite impression that the star wasn't completely circular. I later compared the view with 35 Peg nearby which was completely circular in the view. 37 Peg appeared to be a white colour through this scope at this magnification. Observing at this magnification I got the impression of slight elongation ( ten past the hour // twenty to the hour ). Increasing the magnification to X480 gave a very unsteady view at times but with time and patience I observed what could be described as a rod for this star at the same position angle. These were only fleeting glimpses in the microseconds of steady air but I managed to get a good impression. The colour at this magnification was hard to determine but I got an impression of white with a subtle change to cream at one end of the rod. |
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