HN 84 Sagitta 

Richard Harshaw
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Location of site: Northern Kansas City, Missouri (USA) 
94d 30m west longitude, 39d 15m north latitude 
980 ft above Mean Sea Level 
Date of observations (UT): UT: 02:15 of Sept. 16, 2000 
Site classification: suburban 
Sky conditions
seeing-- 4/10 up to 8/10, in short spans of time 
transparency-- 8 out of 10 
limiting visual magnitude-- 5.0 mag 
Telescope: Celestron C-8 
Eyepiece: 20mm  (104x) 
 
 
Position:  1939+1634 
Magnitudes:  6.4, 9.4 
Sep/PA's:  28 / 301 
Year of last measurement:  1931 
Distance (light years):  2,300? 
Luminosity (in suns):  1,270 
Eyepiece and magnification:  20mm  (104x) 
Colors noted:  dRO!!, B. 
A very rich field lies about 8' south. 
The pair might be optical. 
Star A is a spectroscopic binary and an infra-red source. 
I rated this pair 3. 
Interesting choice of stars, Mr. Ryan.  The color of the primary was very intense.  (Its spectrum suggests an M0 supergiant.) 
 
 
 
 
Eddy O'Connor
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Date & Time: 9 p.m local; UT +11. Saturday, September 16th  2000. 
Seeing: 6/10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> 
Transparency: 6/10 
Location of Site: Terara, New South Wales, Australia, Long.150.38 degrees; 
South 34.52. 
Site Classification: Suburban 
Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Instrument: 8"  F9 Dobsonian 
Magnification: 72X (25mm K)
This delightful golden and blue double lies just East of the arrow Sagitta, North of the dominant Altair in this part of sky. The wide separation of 28.5" makes this a small telescope special. Its rich mag 6.5 burnt gold primary contrasting with its fainter mag. 8.9 Bluish companion. 

Comments: To add to the pleasure of this colourful duo, my notes remind me that two other wide doubles are found in this field at low power, making this unobstrusive area of sky a gold medal inclusion in the Olympic List. 

 

 

 
 
Tom Teague
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Date & Time: 2000 September 18  
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Location of site: Chester, England (53 11 08N; 02 51 39W) 
Site classification: Suburban  
Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> 
Telescope: 63mm Zeiss Telementor refractor 
Magnification: x53 
 
Another grand pair - well chosen, John!  This star was new to me. The primary is a striking deep orange hue.  In my small telescope, the comes is too faint for me to be able to see colour properly, but I suspected a hint of blue/green (no doubt a contrast effect).  I estimated the PA at 300 degrees, which I think is pretty accurate.  A remarkable attractive double in an interesting region of the sky - an even wider pair, Epsilon Sge, precedes it quite closely in the same field. 
 

 

 
 
Ilario Melandri
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Date & Time: 22/09/2000 – 19.10 UT 
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>  
Location of site: Italy, Ravenna, San Romualdo, Lat 44 32’N Lon 12 08’E 
Elevation: 0 m 
Site classification: Rural  
Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: +15C 
Telescope: 150 mm f/15 achromatic refractor (lens by Romano Zen, Venice). 
Magnification: 140x (Plossl 16mm) 
 
The sep. of 28.2” at a distance of 2297 light years, gives the 
incredible distance of about 20,000 Astronomical Units, about 0.3 Light Years. 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Jones
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Date & Time: 0530 UTC Sept 22, 2000
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> 
Location of site: Lake Oswego, Oregon, USA  
Site classification: Suburban 
Sky darkness: 5 <Limiting magnitude>  
Telescope: 8 inch LX50 SCT 
Eye Piece(s): 42 mm Ultima
Magnification: 47x
 
 
Very pretty double set in interesting rich field of stars. The wind was strong enough to blow the scope around a bit.

Primary....yellow-orange
Companion....blue
Est Pa without instrumentation 315d

 
 

 
 
Patrick J. Anway 
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Date & Time: Sept. 24, 2000, 11pm EDT (03:00 UT) 
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> 
Location of Site: Munising Michigan USA 
Site Classification: Rural 
Sky darkness: 6 <limiting magnitude> 
Sky condition: a few high clouds, no moon 
Temperature: 34deg F (2deg C) 
Telescope: Vixen 102mm f/9.8 
Eyepieces: 6mm, 9mm, 18mm orthos 
 

 

Using the 9mm for 111X this pair split into stars of contrasting color. The primary was a pinkish-yellow and the secondary a gray-blue. This also in the "High-Precision Subset" group (see note for Theta Sagittae) and interestingly, the Hipparcos data revealed it to be a newly discovered variable of spectral type: M0Iab-Ib SB. 
 
 

 
 
 
 

 
William L. Schart
Star: HN 84 Sagitta 
Date & Time: 9/26/00 8:25 pm CDT 
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>  
Location of site: Killeen, TX (Lat 31 N, Elev 600 ft)  
Site classification: Suburban  
Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude>  
Telescope: Orion 6" Dob.  
Magnification: 32x,  98x 
 
Tonight's target, HN84 in Sagittae, necessitated standing on my head in order to be able to see through the finder. The cat was mad at me, this morning I was up in the computer room and she apparently snuck without me knowing, and I shut the door before leaving for school. It was nice and cool out. No pond mists, fragrant flowers, or much else in the way of ambience tonight. Also, no migrating stars. I checked. 
 
Located near alpha Sag, in fact this was visible in the same low power FOV. Easily split at this power, the primary was quite orange. At low power I did not detect any color in the fainter companion, however at higher power it appeared blue. PA measured at 28", sep at 305. There was a third pair also located in the same low 
power FOV, with MNB84 forming the vertex of a somewhat flat triangle.