| Bill Reinehr | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: July 6, 2001, 04:45 UTC Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: /10 Location of site: Pflugerville, Texas, USA (30 degrees N.) Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 3.9 <Limiting magnitude> Sky: full moon but clear & very still Temperature: 78º F. Telescope: Vixen 80mm Fluorite, f/8 on Custom D altaz mount Eyepieces: 9mm Vixen LV & 7mm Pentax XL Magnification: 71x & 91x |
The Double-Double in Lyra.
Elongation but no split at 71x. Quite tight but cleanly split at 91x. The
components of epsilon1 and epsilon2 are arranged perpendicular to one another.
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| Richard Harshaw | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 6 July, 2001, 03:00 to 04:55, UT Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 6-7/10 ,variable, due to high hazy clouds Location of site: Northern Kansas City, Missouri. 39º 15' N, 94º 30' W, 980 ft above Mean Sea Level Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Celestron C-11 Eyepieces: 25mm Plossl, 9mm Lanthanum Magnification: 112x, 311x |
Epsilon Lyr (Epsilon 1 =
STF 2382; Epsilon 2 = STF 2383; Epsilon 1 / Epsilon 2 = SI 37; 4 Lyr; The
Double Double)
Position: 1844+3940 Magnitudes: STF 2382: 4.7 (F1 V), 5.4 (F1 V) STF 2383: 4.6 (A2 V + A4 V), 5.2 (A) Sep/PA's: STF 2382: 2.3- / 92+ STF 2383: 2.3- / 124- Year of this measurement: 1991 Distance (light years): 160 Luminosity (in suns): 108 total Colors noted: all W Comments:
The orbital period may be
1,165.6 years (Guntzel-Lingner, 1956). The masses are 1.58 and 1.13 solar
(2.71 solar total).
STF 2383: Just split
at 112x, but better at 311x.
This system is a member of
the Hyades group.
The system was discovered
by William Herschel in 1779, and first measured by F. W. Struve in 1831
(2.6" @ 155); Phillips got 2.3" @ 124 in 1912. There are many more
extremely faint companions too.
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| William Schart | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: July/9/01 0500 to 0635 UT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Killeen, TX, USA Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: In the 80's F (30's C). Slight breeze. Telescope: Celestar 8" SCT Eyepieces: 25mm, 17mm, 10mm Magnification: 80x, 120x, 200x |
At low power, each double
was elongated but not cleanly split. I did not make the split on both until
I got to high power.
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| Mary Flanagan | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 11 Jul 2001 04:05 UT Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 9/10 Location of site: Apple Valley MN, USA 93d 14m 25s W; 44d 45m 17s N Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: ~4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 12.5" f/5 Dobsonian Magnification: 106x, 144x |
Didn't work for me tonight;
smeary dancing peanuts were all that happened at both 106x and 144x. Annoying,
because I've gotten this one several times in the past.
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| John M. Ryan | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 10 July 2001 ( 22:30 UT ). Seeing: 8+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Barreras, Salamanca, Spain. Site classification: Rural,Suburban. Conditions: no moon, fairly dry and calm. Sky darkness: 5+ <Limiting magnitude> some light due to street lights in the village. Telescope: Meade 7" Mak Cas mounted on a Losmandy GM8 Magnification: 230X and 460X Eyepieces: 12mm plossl, 6mm ortho |
Clean split at 230X with
both double in the same field of view. At 460X had much better split of
each double with perfect Airy disks and black space between the two components.
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| Tim Leese | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 16 July 2001 ( 00:30 UT ). Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Northwich, Cheshire. UK. 53° 15' N -2º 33' W. Site classification: Suburban Conditions: Clear spell, cool, no Moon. Sky darkness: 4.2 ( UMi ) <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 200mm f/6 Newtonian reflector. Mounted over a Vixen GP mount (manual slow motion). Eyepieces: 18mm and 9mm orthoscopics Magnification: X67, X134 |
When this star system is
on view I use it to gauge the seeing for the night so this star pattern
is etched into my mind as I have observed it so often.
Using X67 tonight I got elongation
with a hint of a figure of eight for
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| Luis Argüelles | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 17th, July, 2001. 21:45 UT Seeing: 5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 8 - 9 <0:worst -10:best > Location of site: Quintueles, Gijón, Spain. 43º 32N, 5º 55W. Altitude: 20 m. Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 3.5-4.0 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: about 17º C Conditions: Really transparent afeter a day with strong winds up to 90 kms/h. As usually under these conditions, the seeing is not good. Telescope: Zeiss Telementor Eyepieces: 35 and 5mm Baader-Planetarium Eudiascopics Magnification: 24x, 168x Star: Epsilon Lyrae
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At only 24x a very slight
elongation is perceived, although not so clear as the one observed in Sena
de Luna. Using 168x, the split is easy, but again, not so clean as the
one observed in the "official" place for the anual Meetings of
the "Spirit of 33". It's also clear the orthogonal orientation of both doubles. Between both Epsilon-1 and Epsilon-2, GSC-3122-1635 is clearly observed at both magnifications, forming a characteristic V. The mount is aligned with
Vega using the hour angle from the program "Planetarium" for the Palm-Pilot
computing platform, simply rotating the mount around its z-axis until this
beautiful star enters the field.
At 84x, the small Zeiss show
the typical "eight" shape for each double and the perpendicularity is clearly
observed. GSC-3122-1635 is child's play at only 24x, forming one of the
most characteristic "Vs" in the entire sky. At 168x the split is clean,
although again, image quality doesn't reach the "standards" set in Sena
de Luna.
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| Stuart Clough | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 27.07.01. 2105 UT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Near Halifax West Yorkshire, England. Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 4.4 (U Mi) <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: 22 C Conditions: No cloud, Lt. Airs, balmy. Telescope: Orion Optics UK GX250 10" f4.8 Newtonian on Vixen GP mount. Eyepieces: 9 mm Ortho, Ultima Barlow Magnification: x133, x267 |
One never tires of the double
double.. Tonight all four components were split at x133 although there
was just a hairline of darkness between the close components. Doubling
the magnification gave a superb view . Lots of twilight still in the sky.
Ambience: Friday 27th July
was unlike any other evening's observing I have ever
All down to the Azores high pushing north east and hopefully staying a while.... It makes a pleasant change from the normal succession of Atlantic lows. A pity that a neighbour's security light has jammed in the `on' position whilst he is away on holiday, but at least it is behind me when Lyra is in the eyepiece.
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| Philippe Dejocas | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: July 28 2001 Seeing: 6.5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Canada Site classification: Suburban Conditions: Clean skies and warm temperatures. Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 6inch/f5 newt Magnification: 85x
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Seen numerous time, resolved
at 85x, always striking.
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| Tomás Vázquez | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 22/04/2001. (TU): 01:14:21 Seeing: 4 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Sevilla. Spain 37 24 N. 5 58 W Site classification: Urban Sky darkness: 3 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: C8. Reducer Focal: F/6,3 Eyepieces: CCD Camera Magnification: n/a
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Observation: Camera CCD
ST-4.
Time of Integration: 6 seconds. Software Lectura CCD: LUCAS 1.1 Software Treatment: LAIA 3.2A Position Image: North up, Este left. Telescope Computer Interface: MICRO-GUIDER III. Planetariun and Telescope Control Program: ECU. "Earth Cerntered Universe" Description: The measures that I have carried out from the Amgle of Position and Separation to this double are the follwing: AP: 173.17º D: 207.44" Data Catalog WDS.
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| Tom Teague | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 2001 August 16 (2100UT) Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Chester, England 53°11'08"N; 02°51'39"W Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: Not assessed <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Zeiss Telementor C63/840 refractor Magnification: x210 |
The seeing was not very
good, and the sky a little too bright, but I was easily able to separate
both pairs at this power. Surprisingly difficult by comparison with
earlier observations, though, and at all lower powers the view was poor.
Elongated x53, but I think it might just be possible to split both pairs
cleanly at this power in really excellent seeing. I would certainly
expect to be able to do it x84. No colours distinguished.
There is a fairly conspicuous star of about mag. 9 closely following. I watched for the two fainter 'acolytes', as Smyth calls them (Herschel's debilissima), and caught glimpses of each of them using averted vision x210. They lie either side of the axis of the main Epsilon pair. Interestingly, I could see each only when looking for the other, and was never able to see both simultaneously. These were momentary glimpses only, at the very limit of detection, and my observation is somewhat devalued by the fact that I had seen the drawing reproduced in later editions of Webb's Celestial Objects. I therefore knew beforehand where to look, so that the effects of observer bias cannot be completely discounted. Webb reports having glimpsed one and suspected the other in very fine conditions with his 3.7-inch fluid refractor which was, however, almost certainly an instrument of much inferior optical quality by comparison with my Zeiss. In very fine air, Ward apparently saw both with 2.1 inches of aperture. He was, of course, noted for his exceptionally acute vision, and performed many prodigious feats of this kind. I have remarked in the past
that although, as a boy and a very young man, I found the wider Epsilon
pair an easy naked eye split, I cannot now separate them even with the
help of my spectacles. Bessel is said by Webb to have done it "at
13", from which I infer that Bessel also lost the ability to split the
two main components in later life. At least I am in good company.
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| Bob Hogeveen | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: 18 August, 2001, 01.00 Seeing: 5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands - 53N, 6E Site classification: Village backyard Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Guan Sheng 80mm f/6 Eyepieces: LV 7mm, LV5mm, 2x barlow Magnification: 69x, 96x, 138x |
Using the 7mm the image
was bright and sharp, but the stars were difficult to split. Only Eps-2
showed a good split, the greater magnitude difference in Eps-1 made the
split difficult. With the 5mm both stars could be split though Eps-1 remained
difficult.
Using a 2x barlow from my
observing companion on the 7mm gave me 138x. The result of this was more
than I expected. The separations were clear and almost wide. The star-images
were very clean, small dots, very different from the diffraction ringed
images I'm used to.
Rating: 2
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| PJ Anway | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: August, 18, 2001 03:00 UT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: <0:worst -10:best > Location of site: Starfest @ Mount Forest, Ontario, Canada Site classification: Rural Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: 75°F, 24°C Conditions: No moon, Cloudy with large holes Telescope: Zeiss Telementor 63mm/840mm refractor on equatorial mount Eyepieces: Televue 18mm, 12mm radians + 2.4X barlow Magnification: 47X, 70X, 112X, 168X
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A double split at 112X with
both pairs in the field; the pairs being perpendicular to each other. Split
better at 168X with both pairs just in field. I never grow tired of this
fine system; with the wider AFOV of the radian it was a such a lovely sight
as the double pair floated against the starry background - no definite
color seen.
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| Jim Phillips | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: July 21, 2001, 9:00-11:00 EDT Seeing: 7-8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Hodges, SC, USA Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: -- <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: 65 degrees F Telescope: AP 155 F/7 Apo Magnification: 109x, 217x, 271x
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First noted as 4 stars with
10mm eyepiece (109X). Very pretty. Best views 10mm + 2X Barlow (217X),
4mm (271X).
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| Eddy O'connor | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time: Saturday, August 25th 2001 9.00 -10p.m local; UT +9. Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 6 /10 Location of site: Terara, New South Wales, Australia Long.150º.38 ; Dec. S 34º.52. Temperature. 13ºC, Calm Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 6 day-old Moon Telescope: 8" Newt. F9 Eyepieces: 25mm K, 12.5 mm ortho Magnification: 73x, 146x Harshaw Scale: 1 <1-5; 1 best> |
This is the text book double
double star that can be enjoyed by the aesthete and the optical technician
equally. In the south it remains more a case of good seeing than good optics
for optimum results.
Comments: The low-power field is a delight with the two 5.5 primaries sitting at the edge of the field and then comes the task of splitting the primaries. Tonight, only the southern member detaches fitfully as it pulsates in the heavy atmosphere. Another fainter star in the field. |
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| Jim Jones | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Lyrae
Date & Time:08/26/01 0655 UTC Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Independence, Oregon Site classification: Rural Sky darkness: 5.2 <Limiting magnitude> Conditions: First Quarter + 1 day. Telescope: 8" LX50 Eyepieces: 18mm Radian, 2x Ultima, 2.5mm CMG Magnification: 112x, 224x, 160x |
Separation and Position
Angle measured using Celestron
Micro Guide and are the average of 5 measurements. Separation 210.7" PA 172d The "double-double" remains
one of my favorite doubles.
A mag 8 star lies about half
way between the two doubles
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