| Jim Jones | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 07/02/01 0602 UTC Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 6/10 Location of site: Independence, Oregon Site classification: Rural Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude> Sky: Almost full moon. Telescope in deep shadow. Telescope: 8 inch LX50 SCT Eyepieces: 18mm Radian Magnification: 112x |
Est Pa without inst....150d
Primary...yellow Very interesting field. At
least 30 stars in the 0.6 degree FOV. Beta is the middle star in the long
side of a distinctive 4 star asterism in the shape of an "L". Beta and
it's companion point to a faint double about 10' to the SSE. A long line
of three 10th magnitude stars bridge the gap between Beta and the double.
The dim double is TAR 3ab (1851+33.2, Mag 10.9/ 11.4, Sep 13.1", PA 298).
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| Bill Reinehr | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July 6, 2001, 04:30 UTC Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: /10 Location of site: Pflugerville, Texas, USA (30 degrees N.) Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 3.9 <Limiting magnitude> Sky: full moon but clear & very still Temperature: 78º F. Telescope: Vixen 80mm Fluorite, f/8 on Custom D altaz mount Eyepieces: 30mm Ultrascopic Magnification: 21x |
A very wide and easy split
at 21x. A significant difference in magnitude. In the same low power FOV
as M57 (Ring Nebula). No color noted.
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| Richard Harshaw | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 6 July, 2001, 03:00 to 04:55, UT Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 6-7/10 ,variable, due to high hazy clouds Location of site: Northern Kansas City, Missouri. 39º 15' N, 94º 30' W, 980 ft above Mean Sea Level Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Celestron C-11 Eyepieces: 25mm Plossl Magnification: 112x |
Beta Lyr (10 Lyr, SI 39,
Bur 293, Sheliak "the tortiose shell")
Position: 1850+3322 Magnitudes: 3.4 (B8e III), 8.6 (A8), 9.9, 9.9 Sep/PA's: AB- 46= / 149-, AC- 67 / 318, AD- 86 / 19 Year of this measurement: 1989 Distance (light years): 880 Luminosity (in suns): 2,756 Colors noted: W, W, bW and W Comments: Some observers see W and pG; Webb saw them as Y and W. However, there is much disagreement historically on the colors. Rich field. Very nice system! This system is a famous eclipsing variable with a 12.91 day period. It has two minima (since the two stars are unequal in brightness)- 3.8m and 4.3m separated by a maximum of 3.4m in a 12.925 day period. Only 0.24 AU separates the Aa pair, so mass transfer must occur (at about 10^22 grams per second in a river that flows at 180 miles per second, equal to 10^-5 suns per year!). Eventually, the accumulation of material on the companion may alter its physics to the point where it becomes a nova. In addition, we now know that the secondary is also slinging off a stream of ejecta that forms an expanding spiral. The Aa stars are both oval-shaped owing to their strong gravitational warping of each other. The dimensions of the larger star may be about 19 solar diameters by 13; for the smaller companion, it is probably about 12 by 9 solar diameters. Star A is 10 times the mass of the Sun; star a is 20 solar masses. Note that the brighter star is the less massive; does Mass/Luminosity always hold? Some astronomers think that the luminosity of star "a" may be reduced because it is surrounded by a (hypothetical) accretion disk. The fact that the primary is also an infra-red source makes this a possibility. Beta Lyr stars are a fascinating sub-class, also known as W Ser stars. They are always part of a binary system of two massive stars, one of which has aged faster and is a giant that fills its Roche lobe, meaning there is significant mass transfer taking place. This mass flow from the younger star to the older one results in an accretion disk around the old star. The variabilities in this disk lead to variable light output and if the viewing angle is just right (as it is in Beta Lyr's case), the disk will give the impression that the older star is brighter than it really is. The outer edge of the accretion disk can hide the "eating" star and make it look larger and cooler than it really is, making it appear to be a giant instead of the Main Sequence star it really is. First measure (1835) by F.
W. Struve: 45.8" @ 150.
James Kaler's Star Notes:
Sheliak has an importance
all out of proportion to its apparent dimness. It is not one star,
but two, a bright bluish hotter one with a temperature of some 13,000 degrees
Kelvin orbiting a dimmer white cooler one (though one still much brighter
than the Sun) with a temperature closer to 8000 Kelvin. Doubles of course
abound in the sky. Our Sheliak, however, eclipses! The plane of the orbit
is pitched so that dur
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| Bob Hogeveen | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July 8, 2001; 0:30 - 01.15 Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands (53 N, 6 E) Site classification: Village-backyard Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Meade SCT 8" f/10 Eyepieces: Ultima 30 mm, TV plossl 20mm, LV 15mm, LV 7mm Magnification: -- |
A bright and wide (and white)
double in a rich field. Two more companions are easily visible, but are
they real companions or just field stars? The system is best viewed with
low power.
Rating: 2
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| William Schart | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July/9/01 0500 to 0635 UT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Killeen, TX, USA Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: In the 80's F (30's C). Slight breeze. Telescope: Celestar 8" SCT Eyepieces: 25mm, 17mm, 10mm Magnification: 80x, 120x, 200x |
A nice wide pair with about
5 mignitudes difference. The primary is a brilliant blue-white, the secondary
is a deeper blue. To the north of this are 2 others stars, perhaps about
mag 9 and in the same ballpark separation, giving a sort of lower cased
y-shaped asterism. Of course, this is reversed in my SCT FOV. I later ID'ed
these as Tycho 2642-41391-1 and Tycho 2642-2933-1, and they are an optical
pair only.
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| Mary Flanagan | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 11 Jul 2001 03:55 UT Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 9/10 Location of site: Apple Valley MN, USA 93d 14m 25s W; 44d 45m 17s N Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: ~4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 12.5" f/5 Dobsonian Magnification: 50x |
Nice one. White primary, secondary deep blue. | |||
| Stuart Clough | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 19.07.2001 2240 UT Seeing: 5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Near Halifax West Yorkshire, England. Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 4.2 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: 9 C Conditions: Lt N'ly wind, 2/8 - 8/8 cloud Telescope: Orion Optics UK GX250 10" f4.8 Newtonian on Vixen GP mount. Magnification: x60 Eyepiece: 20mm Plossl. |
A wide and beautiful colour
contrasted multiple set in a superb field. The pale yellow primary (the
eclipsing and enigmatic binary) is complemented by the
deep blue component at 149 deg/46". The two mag.9 stars are readily
seen and also appeared to have a yellowish tint.Could not find the 13th
Mag companion mentioned in Burnham - hardly surprising since some twilight
remained. Some of these latter are, it seems, probably only optical.
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| Tim Leese | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Northwich, Cheshire. UK. 53° 15' N -2º 33' W. Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 3 (U Mi) <Limiting magnitude> Conditions: Clear spell, 11 day old Moon. Telescope: 80mm f/5 wide view refractor. Mounted over a Vixen GP mount (manual slow motion). Eyepieces: 5mm Lanthanum. Magnification: X80 |
Using a 5mm Lanthanum giving
X80 magnification I observed a very nice system located in a very busy
field of view.
The primary appeared to be
a creamy white colour with the listed companion a
Ambience: After a very clear
sunset the sky looked promising with a very pleasant evening. Quite a number
of bats were swerving round catching insects. Some of them looked very
tiny indeed. Perhaps this years offspring! It was nice to see
a barn owl pass overhead hunting for food over the gardens and fields.
I wonder at how silently thesebirds can fly.
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| Luis Argüelles | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 21st, July, 2001. 21:00 – 23:05UT Seeing: 7-8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 3-4 <0:worst -10:best > Location of site: Quintueles, Gijón, Spain. 43º 32N, 5º 55W. Altitude: 20 m. Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 3.0 - 3.5 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: about 15º C Conditions: A lot of haze and moisture. Seeing is rather good, but haze actuates like a light diffusor and that makes difficult observe stars fainter that 10 magnitude. Humidity: about 90% Telescope: Vixen 102 4" achromatic refractor Eyepieces: 35, 10 and 5mm Baader-Planetarium Eudiascopics Magnification: 100x Star: Beta Lyrae
Star: Beta Lyrae
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Really easy to split double.
At 100x, it would be no problem for a battelship to manouvre between components.
The main component appears white-white orangish to me and the another one
is observed as bluish.
Two more stars are in the
field of view, composing a nice escalene triangle. It deserves frecuent
visits.
From my space-walk in Lyra, I go down observing and moving the telescope at 24x and then a bit towards East until finding Beta Lyrae. The split is obviously very easy. One of the components is
white, while the another one
After aligning the Zeiss
T-mount on Wega and adjusting the Sheilak coordinates, the split is again
"entry-level" at 24x. The view is beautiful, with a very bright main component
and a secondary clearly more fainter. The
Ambience: This saturday is
the zenith of local summer festivities in Qintueles and there is a lot
of music coming from different "romerias" (concentrations of bands and
people in the country-yard). Also, loud fire-works are perceived now and
then. Since I've made previously a Moon imaging session and tomorrow we
expect a familiar meeting in order to enjoy a professional "Fabada", I
end up the observing session.
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| Philippe Dejocas | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July 28 2001 Seeing: 6.5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Canada Site classification: Suburban Conditions: Clean skies and warm temperatures. Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 6inch/f5 newt Magnification: 40x
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At 40x, a cinch, with M57
as a bonus!
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| Tomás Vázquez | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 22/04/2001.(TU): 01:01:51 Seeing: 4 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Location of site: Sevilla. Spain 37 24 N. 5 58 W Site classification: Urban Sky darkness: 3 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: C8. Reducer Focal: F/6,3 Eyepieces: CCD Camera Magnification: n/a
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Observation: Camera CCD
ST-4.
Time of Integration: 8 seconds. Software Lectura CCD: LUCAS 1.1 Software Treatment: LAIA 3.2A Position Image: North up, Este left. Telescope Computer Interface: MICRO-GUIDER III. Planetariun and Telescope Control Program: ECU. "Earth Cerntered Universe" Description: The measures
that I have carried out from the Amgle of Position
AP: 148.32º D: 46.11" Data Catalog WDS.
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| Tom Teague | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 2001 August 16 (2100UT) Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Chester, England 53°11'08"N; 02°51'39"W Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: Not assessed <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Zeiss Telementor C63/840 refractor Magnification: x21, x53, x84, x140 and x210 |
Easily resolved at all powers.
Pale yellow and greenish to my eyes.
Two other nearby comites help to form a pretty arrow-shaped asterism. Many years ago, I carried out an interesting spectroscopic study of the main component using a Zeiss prismatic pocket spectroscope in conjunction with my 8.5-inch f/5 Newtonian reflector. I found that the D3 helium line was almost always visible in emission, but the H-alpha line only occasionally. There did appear to be some correlation with the variability period of the star, which would accord with theory, but the link was a rather weak one. My investigation only served to confirm what astronomers already knew, which is that the human eye is a hopelessly inadequate detector for serious spectroscopic work! In common with other members
of this group, I could not resist examining the Ring Nebula (M57) while
I was in the neighbourhood. As on many occasions in the past, I found
it obvious at all powers from x21, but improving with each increase in
magnification up to x140. This is, as is well known, quite a common
effect with planetary nebulae. Beyond x140, however, there was no
further improvement. I found the best view x84 and x140, at which
powers I saw a lovely blue-grey smoke ring. The central vacuity is
not difficult with a/v, but appears smaller (and the surrounding bright
annulus correspondingly broader) than in photographs.
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| PJ Anway | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: August, 18, 2001 03:00 UT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: <0:worst -10:best > Location of site: Starfest @ Mount Forest, Ontario, Canada Site classification: Rural Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude> Temperature: 75°F, 24°C Conditions: No moon, Cloudy with large holes Telescope: Zeiss Telementor 63mm/840mm refractor on equatorial mount Eyepieces: Televue 18mm, 12mm radians + 2.4X barlow Magnification: 47X, 70X, 112X, 168X
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Easily split at 47X with
a yellow-white primary and ruddy
companion; quite a nice scene with M57 also in the view. At 70X the view was even
better yielding the same colors and with M57 just on the edge of the field.
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| Eddy O'connor | ||||
| Star:
Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: Saturday, August 25th 2001 9.00 -10p.m local; UT +9. Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. Transparency: 6 /10 Location of site: Terara, New South Wales, Australia Long.150º.38 ; Dec. S 34º.52. Temperature. 13ºC, Calm Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 6 day-old Moon Telescope: 8" Newt. F9 Eyepieces: 25mm K, 12.5 mm ortho Magnification: 73x, 146x Harshaw Scale: 1 <1-5; 1 best> |
This is a well - travelled
glimpse of Northern sky as M 57 the Ring Nebula close by is regularly visited,
even by southerners.
Comments: I observed this at low power as a dazzling White( v. mag.3.4-4.4) star with a mag. 7.8 Bluish companion widely separated to the north. Two fainter companions emerge in the field to the south creating a Y-shaped asterism. Beautiful field and classic double. Ambience: My neighbour had
such a successful day in the garden, as he helped his wife make preparations
for an upcoming open garden exhibition, that he decided on a big burn-off.
All through the evening burning timber, that great reminder of Summer camp-fires
and the rich–smelling aroma of toasted incense, reminiscent
of dim churches of long ago, filled the Spring air. The Moon, a yellow
boat drifts westwards and my cat is back after a long winter sheltered
on my back verandah. As I put away the eyepieces I realise that I have
missed the obvious, Vega, a double from our list. My memory badly needs
an upgrade! Is there some corner of the Universe reserved for ancient
star-gazers who have lost their marbles?
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