Beta Lyrae 

Jim Jones
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 07/02/01 0602 UTC
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: 6/10 
Location of site: Independence, Oregon 
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Sky: Almost full moon. Telescope in deep shadow.
Telescope: 8 inch LX50 SCT 
Eyepieces:  18mm Radian 
Magnification: 112x
Est Pa without inst....150d 
Primary...yellow 

Very interesting field. At least 30 stars in the 0.6 degree FOV. Beta is the middle star in the long side of a distinctive 4 star asterism in the shape of an "L". Beta and it's companion point to a faint double about 10' to the SSE. A long line of three 10th magnitude stars bridge the gap between Beta and the double. The dim double is TAR 3ab (1851+33.2, Mag 10.9/ 11.4, Sep 13.1", PA 298). 
 

 


 
Bill Reinehr 
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July 6, 2001,  04:30  UTC
Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: /10 
Location of site: Pflugerville, Texas, USA
(30 degrees N.) 
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 3.9 <Limiting magnitude>
Sky: full moon but clear & very still
Temperature:  78º F.
Telescope: Vixen 80mm Fluorite, f/8  on Custom D altaz mount 
Eyepieces: 30mm Ultrascopic
Magnification: 21x 
A very wide and easy split at 21x. A significant difference in magnitude. In the same low power FOV as M57 (Ring Nebula). No color noted. 
 
 

 


 
Richard Harshaw 
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 6 July, 2001, 03:00 to 04:55, UT
Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: 6-7/10 ,variable, due to high hazy clouds 
Location of site: Northern Kansas City, Missouri. 39º 15' N, 94º 30' W, 980 ft above Mean Sea Level
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness:  <Limiting magnitude>
Telescope: Celestron C-11
Eyepieces: 25mm Plossl 
Magnification: 112x
Beta Lyr (10 Lyr, SI 39, Bur 293, Sheliak "the tortiose shell") 
Position:  1850+3322 
Magnitudes:  3.4 (B8e III), 8.6 (A8), 9.9, 9.9 
Sep/PA's:   AB- 46= / 149-,  AC- 67 / 318,  AD- 86 / 19 
Year of this measurement:  1989 
Distance (light years):  880 
Luminosity (in suns):  2,756 
Colors noted:  W, W, bW and W 
Comments:  Some observers see W and pG; Webb saw them as Y and W.   However, there is much disagreement historically on the colors.  Rich field.  Very nice system! 

This system is a famous eclipsing variable with a 12.91 day period.  It has two minima (since the two stars are unequal in brightness)- 3.8m and 4.3m separated by a maximum of 3.4m in a 12.925 day period. 

Only 0.24 AU separates the Aa pair, so mass transfer must occur (at about 10^22 grams per second in a river that flows at 180 miles per second, equal to 10^-5 suns per year!).  Eventually, the accumulation of material on the companion may alter its physics to the point where it becomes a nova.  In addition, we now know that the secondary is also slinging off a stream of ejecta that forms an expanding spiral. 

The Aa stars are both oval-shaped owing to their strong gravitational warping of each other.  The dimensions of the larger star may be about 19 solar diameters by 13; for the smaller companion, it is probably about 12 by 9 solar diameters. 

Star A is 10 times the mass of the Sun; star a is 20 solar masses.  Note that the brighter star is the less massive; does Mass/Luminosity always hold?  Some astronomers think that the luminosity of star "a" may be reduced because it is surrounded by a (hypothetical) accretion disk.  The fact that the primary is also an infra-red source makes this a possibility. 

Beta Lyr stars are a fascinating sub-class, also known as W Ser stars.  They are always part of a binary system of two massive stars, one of which has aged faster and is a giant that fills its Roche lobe, meaning there is significant mass transfer taking place. This mass flow from the younger star to the older one results in an accretion disk around the old star. The variabilities in this disk lead to variable light output and if the viewing angle is just right (as it is in Beta Lyr's case), the disk will give the impression that the older star is brighter than it really is. 

The outer edge of the accretion disk can hide the "eating" star and make it look larger and cooler than it really is, making it appear to be a giant instead of the Main Sequence star it really is. 

First measure (1835) by F. W. Struve:  45.8" @ 150. 
The stars show similar proper motions. 

James Kaler's Star Notes: 
So many star names -- Vega, Deneb, Rigel -- ring familiarly to the ear. Sheliak, at the dim end of third magnitude, is not among them. Only because the little star is an integral part of the exquisite constellation Lyra, the Lyre or Harp, of which great Vega is king, does it even have a proper name. The southwestern-most star of the little parallelogram that makes the body of the Harp, and usually referred to as Lyra's Beta star, the name Sheliak derives from an Arabic word that refers to the whole constellation, to the celestial harp itself, which in Greek mythology commemorates the harp of Orpheus. 

Sheliak has an importance all out of proportion to its apparent dimness.  It is not one star, but two, a bright bluish hotter one with a temperature of some 13,000 degrees Kelvin orbiting a dimmer white cooler one (though one still much brighter than the Sun) with a temperature closer to 8000 Kelvin. Doubles of course abound in the sky. Our Sheliak, however, eclipses! The plane of the orbit is pitched so that dur 
Rating:  1 
 


 
Bob Hogeveen
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July 8, 2001; 0:30 - 01.15 
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands (53 N, 6 E)
Site classification: Village-backyard
Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude>
Telescope: Meade SCT 8" f/10 
Eyepieces: Ultima 30 mm, TV plossl 20mm, LV 15mm, LV 7mm 
Magnification: --
A bright and wide (and white) double in a rich field. Two more companions are easily visible, but are they real companions or just field stars? The system is best viewed with low power. 
Rating: 2 

 


 
William Schart 
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July/9/01 0500 to 0635 UT
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>.
Location of site: Killeen, TX, USA
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude>
Temperature: In the 80's F (30's C). Slight breeze. 
Telescope: Celestar 8" SCT
Eyepieces:  25mm, 17mm, 10mm 
Magnification: 80x, 120x, 200x
A nice wide pair with about 5 mignitudes difference. The primary is a brilliant blue-white, the secondary is a deeper blue. To the north of this are 2 others stars, perhaps about mag 9 and in the same ballpark separation, giving a sort of lower cased y-shaped asterism. Of course, this is reversed in my SCT FOV. I later ID'ed  these as Tycho 2642-41391-1 and Tycho 2642-2933-1, and they are an optical pair only. 

 


 
Mary Flanagan
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 11 Jul 2001 03:55 UT
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: 9/10 
Location of site: Apple Valley MN, USA
93d 14m 25s W; 44d 45m 17s N 
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: ~4.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Telescope: 12.5" f/5 Dobsonian 
Magnification: 50x 
Nice one. White primary, secondary deep blue. 

 
Stuart Clough
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 19.07.2001 2240 UT
Seeing: 5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Location of site: Near Halifax
West Yorkshire, England.
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 4.2 <Limiting magnitude>
Temperature: 9 C 
Conditions: Lt N'ly wind, 2/8 - 8/8 cloud
Telescope: Orion Optics UK GX250 10" f4.8 Newtonian on Vixen GP mount.
Magnification: x60
Eyepiece: 20mm Plossl.
A wide and beautiful colour contrasted multiple set in a superb field. The pale yellow primary (the eclipsing and enigmatic binary)  is complemented by the 
deep blue component at 149 deg/46".

The two mag.9 stars are readily seen and also appeared to have a yellowish tint.Could not find the 13th Mag companion mentioned in Burnham - hardly surprising since some twilight remained. Some of these latter are, it seems, probably only optical.
 
 
 

 


 
Tim Leese
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Northwich, Cheshire. UK. 53° 15' N -2º 33' W. 
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 3 (U Mi) <Limiting magnitude> 
Conditions: Clear spell, 11 day old Moon. 
Telescope: 80mm f/5 wide view refractor.
Mounted over a Vixen GP mount (manual slow motion).
Eyepieces: 5mm Lanthanum. 
Magnification: X80
Using a 5mm Lanthanum giving X80 magnification I observed a very nice system located in a very busy field of view.

The primary appeared to be a creamy white colour with the listed companion a
blue colour. It took me a while to determine the position angle of the companion using this scope with a star diagonal, but I got there in the end. I estimated the PA of the companion to be about 150deg. Two other very faint stars could be seen near to the primary also. One at about PA 20deg and the other, needing averted vision, at about PA 320deg. A superb double star through any telescope.

Ambience: After a very clear sunset the sky looked promising with a very pleasant evening. Quite a number of bats were swerving round catching insects. Some of them looked very tiny indeed.  Perhaps this years offspring!  It was nice to see a barn owl pass overhead hunting for food over the gardens and fields. I wonder at how silently thesebirds can fly.
 


 
Luis Argüelles
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 21st, July, 2001. 21:00 – 23:05UT
Seeing: 7-8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Transparency: 3-4 <0:worst -10:best >
Location of site: Quintueles, Gijón, Spain.  43º 32N, 5º 55W. Altitude: 20 m.
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 3.0 - 3.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: about 15º C
Conditions: A lot of haze and moisture. Seeing is rather good, but haze actuates like a light diffusor and that makes difficult observe stars fainter that 10
magnitude.
Humidity: about 90%
Telescope: Vixen 102 4" achromatic refractor
Eyepieces: 35, 10 and 5mm Baader-Planetarium Eudiascopics
Magnification: 100x
 
 

Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 22nd, July, 2001. 21:45 UT
Seeing: 7-8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Transparency: 8 <0:worst -10:best >
Location of site: Quintueles, Gijón, Spain.  43º 32N, 5º 55W. Altitude: 20 m.
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 3.0 - 3.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: about 16º C
Telescope: Zeiss Telementor
Eyepieces: 35 and 10mm Baader-Planetarium Eudiascopics
Magnification: 24x, 84x
Harschaw Scale: 2 <From 1 to 5. 1 = Great, 5 = poor interest>
 
 

Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 28th, July, 2001. 21:45 UT
Seeing: 7-8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Transparency: 8 <0:worst -10:best >
Location of site: Quintueles, Gijón, Spain.  43º 32N, 5º 55W. Altitude: 20 m.
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 2.5 - 3.0 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: about 18º C
Sky: Moon in crescent. A lot f cloud banks.
Telescope: Zeiss Telementor
Eyepieces: 35mm Baader-Planetarium Eudiascopic
Magnification: 24x
Harschaw Scale: 2 <From 1 to 5. 1 = Great, 5 = poor interest> 

Really easy to split double. At 100x, it would be no problem for a battelship to manouvre between components. The main component appears white-white orangish to me and the another one is observed as bluish.

Two more stars are in the field of view, composing a nice escalene triangle. It deserves frecuent visits.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From my space-walk in Lyra, I go down observing and moving the telescope at 24x and then a bit towards East until finding Beta Lyrae. The split is obviously very easy. 

One of the components is white, while the another one
is orangish. Wonderful double star. Before ending the observing session, I go down again until finding Sulafat (Gamma Lyrae). This combo of telescope and eyepiece is very well suited to find M57, because when Beta and Gamma are in the same field of view, M57 is almost exactly in the eyepiece's center. At 24x M57 isn't visible, but at 84x it is using averted vision.
 
 
 
 
 

After aligning the Zeiss T-mount on Wega and adjusting the Sheilak coordinates, the split is again "entry-level" at 24x. The view is beautiful, with a very bright main component and a secondary clearly more fainter. The
body-position for observing isn't comfortable due to at this time of observation Beta is located at 74 degrees over the horizon

Ambience: This saturday is the zenith of local summer festivities in Qintueles and there is a lot of music coming from different "romerias" (concentrations of bands and people in the country-yard). Also, loud fire-works are perceived now and then. Since I've made previously a Moon imaging session and tomorrow we expect a familiar meeting in order to enjoy a professional "Fabada", I end up the observing session.
 


 
Philippe Dejocas
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: July 28 2001
Seeing: 6.5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Canada
Site classification: Suburban
Conditions: Clean skies and warm temperatures.
Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Telescope: 6inch/f5 newt
Magnification: 40x

 

At 40x, a cinch, with M57 as a bonus!
 
 
 

 


 
Tomás Vázquez 
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 22/04/2001.(TU): 01:01:51
Seeing: 4 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Location of site: Sevilla. Spain
37 24 N. 5 58 W
Site classification: Urban
Sky darkness: 3 <Limiting magnitude>
Telescope: C8. Reducer Focal: F/6,3
Eyepieces: CCD Camera
Magnification: n/a

 

Observation: Camera CCD ST-4.
Time of Integration: 8 seconds.
Software Lectura CCD: LUCAS 1.1
Software Treatment: LAIA 3.2A
Position Image: North up, Este left.
Telescope Computer Interface: MICRO-GUIDER III.
Planetariun and Telescope Control Program: ECU. "Earth Cerntered Universe"

Description: The measures that I have carried out from the Amgle of Position
and Separation to this double are the follwing:

AP: 148.32º D: 46.11"

Data Catalog WDS.
AR: 18h50m06.00s DE:+33°22'00.0"
STF 39 AB
m: 3.63/ 6.69
1835: 45.7"/149°
1994: 46.3"/148°
Sp:B7Ve+A8p Na
DM:+33 3223
 


 
Tom Teague
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: 2001 August 16 (2100UT)
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Chester, England
53°11'08"N; 02°51'39"W
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: Not assessed <Limiting magnitude> 
Telescope: Zeiss Telementor C63/840 refractor
Magnification: x21, x53, x84, x140 and x210
Easily resolved at all powers.  Pale yellow and greenish to my eyes.
Two other nearby comites help to form a pretty arrow-shaped asterism.

Many years ago, I carried out an interesting spectroscopic study of the main component using a Zeiss prismatic pocket spectroscope in conjunction with my 8.5-inch f/5 Newtonian reflector.  I found that the D3 helium line was almost always visible in emission, but the H-alpha line only occasionally.  There did appear to be some correlation with the variability period of the star, which would accord with theory, but the link was a rather weak one.  My investigation only served to confirm what astronomers already knew, which is that the human eye is a hopelessly inadequate detector for serious spectroscopic work!

In common with other members of this group, I could not resist examining the Ring Nebula (M57) while I was in the neighbourhood.  As on many occasions in the past, I found it obvious at all powers from x21, but improving with each increase in magnification up to x140.  This is, as is well known, quite a common effect with planetary nebulae.  Beyond x140, however, there was no further improvement.  I found the best view x84 and x140, at which powers I saw a lovely blue-grey smoke ring.  The central vacuity is not difficult with a/v, but appears smaller (and the surrounding bright annulus correspondingly broader) than in photographs.
 


 
PJ Anway
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: August, 18, 2001  03:00 UT
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Transparency:  <0:worst -10:best >
Location of site: Starfest @ Mount Forest, Ontario, Canada
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: 75°F, 24°C
Conditions: No moon, Cloudy with large holes
Telescope: Zeiss Telementor 63mm/840mm refractor on equatorial mount
Eyepieces: Televue 18mm, 12mm radians + 2.4X barlow
Magnification: 47X, 70X, 112X, 168X

 

Easily split at 47X with a yellow-white primary and ruddy
companion; quite a nice scene with M57 also in the view. 

At 70X the view was even better yielding the same colors and with M57 just on the edge of the field.
 
 
 

 


 
Eddy O'connor
Star: Beta Lyrae
Date & Time: Saturday, August 25th 2001
9.00 -10p.m local; UT +9. 
Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: 6 /10 
Location of site: Terara, New South Wales, Australia
Long.150º.38 ; Dec. S 34º.52. 
Temperature. 13ºC, Calm
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 6 day-old Moon 
Telescope: 8" Newt. F9 
Eyepieces: 25mm K, 12.5 mm ortho
Magnification: 73x, 146x
Harshaw Scale: 1 <1-5; 1 best>
  
This is a well - travelled glimpse of Northern sky as M 57 the Ring Nebula close by is regularly visited, even by southerners.

Comments: I observed this at low power as a dazzling White( v. mag.3.4-4.4)  star with a mag. 7.8 Bluish companion widely separated to the north. Two fainter companions emerge in the field to the south creating a Y-shaped asterism. Beautiful field and classic double. 

Ambience: My neighbour had such a successful day in the garden, as he helped his wife make preparations for an upcoming open garden exhibition, that he decided on a big burn-off. All through the evening burning timber, that great reminder of Summer camp-fires and the rich–smelling  aroma of  toasted incense, reminiscent of dim churches of long ago, filled the Spring air. The Moon, a yellow boat drifts westwards and my cat is back after a long winter sheltered on my back verandah. As I put away the eyepieces I realise that I have missed the obvious, Vega, a double from our list. My memory badly needs an upgrade! Is there some corner of the Universe  reserved for ancient star-gazers who have lost their marbles? 
 

 
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