South 617 

Richard Harshaw
Star: South 617 [ADS 7967] 
Location of site: Northern Kansas City, Missouri (USA) 
94d 30m west longitude, 39d 15m north latitude 
980 ft above Mean Sea Level 
Date of observations (UT): 0300, 02-28-00 LT:  2100, 02-27-00 
Site classification: suburban 
Sky conditions 
seeing-- 6 out of 10 up to 8 (varied quickly and often) 
transparency--  5 out of 10 up to 8 (high, thin clouds were in the area) 
limiting visual magnitude: 4.5  
Temperature: 40F  
Telescope: Celestron C-8  
Eyepiece: Micro-Guide (160x)  
 
 
Primary, 6.2 mag, K0 
Companion, 10.2 mag; 35" sep at PA 178 

I made five pairs of separation and PA measures using the Micro-Guide and got an average of 36" in PA 177. 

I noted colors of orange and bluish-white. 
 
 
 

 
 
Dave Mitsky
Star: South 617  
Date & Time: 2000/2/23, 01:27 UT  
Seeing: 5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: ~ 5  
Location of site: ASH Naylor Observatory (http://www.msd.org/obs.htm)  
near Lewisberry, PA  
Site classification: Rural  
Sky darkness: ~ 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>  
Telescope: 17" f/15 classical Cassegrain 
Dome Temperature: 6° C 
Magnification: 118x, 144x  
Oculars (17"): 55mm University Optics Ploessl (118x), 45mm U.O. Ploessl 
(144x) 

 

S617 is a wide pair (35.2") that was nicely split at 118x. The pale blue comes is almost due north (178°) of the off-white primary. 

 

 

 

Francisco Manuel Rica
Star: South 617 
Date & Time: Several dates 
Seeing: --- <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>  
Location of site: Extremadura, Spain 
Site classification: Suburban  
Sky darkness: --- <Limiting magnitude>  
Telescope: In some measurements, S/C 13" with CCD ST 7  
Magnification: ---
1.  LOCATION 

About 2 degree W. from 61 Leonis. 

2. "A" COMPONENT 

Name            : SAO137863 
V magnitude  : +6.12 (H) 
B - V             : +0.91 (H) 
Spectral type: K0III (normal giant star) (S) 
Colour           : Red 
Proper motion:  AR = -0.132+-0.001 (H) 
                       DEC= -0.082+-0.001 (H) 
Distance        : 261+-18 light-years 

It is a spectroscopy binary with a period of 1166 days and a major semiaxes of 0.009 arcsec. 
 
3. "B" COMPONENT 

Name            : SAO137864 
V magnitude  : +8.65 (T) 
B - V             : +0.57 (T) 
Spectral type : F5-G0 (R) 
Colour           : yellow or gold-yellow 
Proper motion: AR = -0.128+-0.001 (T) 
                      DEC= -0.083+-0.001 (T) 
Distance        : 96+-31 light-years (T) 
 
4. MEASUREMENTS 

I’m not able to measure S617 by problems in my telescope.  S617 was discovered in 1824 by Jhon South. At this epoch, PA = 178 and D = 35.2. Since then, 7 measurements have been made between 1824 and 1925. The straight-line fit of this measurements indicate AP = 178 and D = 35.2 at XIX and XX century. 

HIPPARCOS/Tycho measured the S617 stars position in 1991. The results: PA= 178.1 and D=35.2. I calculated ephemerids for 2000.0 epoch: 

Ephemerids for 2000.0 epoch 
PA          D           Method 
------------------------------------------------ 
178.1      35.21      Extrapolation HIPPARCOS/Tycho proper motion 
178.1      35.17      Straight-line fit of WDS measurements 

5. TYPE OF DOUBLE 

The A and B component proper motion are very high. This is an unusual proper motion. Only 30 star from 2.5 million stars from Tycho-2 catalog has similar proper motion. Both proper motion are VERY similar and therefore surely S617 is a phisycal double star. If this were thus, it would be located at 260 light-years. The proyected separation line is 2800 U.A. 
 
5.1 CALCULATING EXPECTED MAJOR SEMIAXES. 

We can convert the angular separation (D) in an expected major semiaxes by followed formulae: 

E(a) = 10 power at (0.146 + log D) 

 Where E(a) is the expected major semiaxes and D is the angular separation 

The above formulae was obtained by me for the calculing of E(a) using the original formulae: 

E(log a) – E(log D) = 0.146 

This formulae was derived by Couteau in 1.960 on theoretical grounds, assuming a random dostribution of the geometrical elements of the orbit between others. Although it was derived therically, Couteau also checked its obsevational validity using a group of 410 orbits, for which the constant turned out to be 0.150. 

I tested it calculing the expected major semiaxes on an orbital double. The difference between a and E(a) was 0.1 arcsec. 

Thus the expected major semiexes for S617 could be 49.8 arcsec ( = 3974 U.A.) 

A component could be a 2.3 solar mass star; B a 1.2 solar mass star. Using Kepler's third law the period could be 135000 years. By mean, each 370 years the double star move 1 degree. 

The relative movement of B (who have not changed the position angle in 175 years) is in concordance with the above data. 
 
Symbols: 

(H) = HIPPARCOS data 
(T) = Tycho data  (R) = Rica, Francisco M.  (S) = Several references 
 

 
 
Philippe de Jocas 
Star: South 617 
Date & Time: March, 24-25   
Seeing: fair to good, 4 to 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Location of site: Ottawa/Hull, Canada 
Site classification: Suburban  
Sky darkness: 4.4-4.5 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: 6-7C, , light Westerly winds and slighltly hazy skies 
Telescope: 6" f5 newtonian 
Magnification: 110x  
 
S617 was best seen at 110x showing a golden primary and a dusky blue companion. As well, and though it was probably a field star, I could see a faint third member, about 11 mag., some 150" in the NE/NEN by the way, I remember a discussion on estimating PA. For my part I have a plastic disk with N, NNE, NEN,...etc. written on it. By moving the scope in dec. and checking the line going from the primary to the companion unto the disk I find that I can estimate the PA fairly accuratly, leading me to  write like I did for S617, NE  (the main direction)/NEN (leaning toward).
 
 
Ilario Melandri
Star: South 617 
Date & Time: 30 Mar 2000 – 21.50 UTC  
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>  
Location of site: Italy, Ravenna, San Romualdo, Lat 44 32’N Lon 12 08’E 
Elevation: 0 m 
Site classification: Rural  
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude> 
Temperature: +7C 
Telescope: 150 mm f/15 achromatic refractor (lens by Romano Zen, Venice) 
Magnification: 140 x (eyepiece Plossl Clavé 16 mm) 
 
Note: the companion seems to be brighter than m 10.