| Bob Hogeveen | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 1st March 2002 (22:00 UT) Seeing: 4 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands 53ºN, 6ºE Site classification: Village backyard Sky darkness: 5 (before moonrise) <Limiting magnitude> Transparency: 8 <1 worst - 10 best> Temperature: 1º C Telescope: Celestron C11, Intes MK67 Eyepieces: Ultima 30mm, LV 15mm, 10mm plossl Magnification: C11: 93x, 187x. MK67: 180x Star: Epsilon Hydrae
Star: Epsilon Hydrae
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During the Olympic project
the C11 was able to split this pair on a night with good seeing, using
280x. This night I tired 187x and seeing allowed nothing more. There was
no sign of the companion...
The next night the seeing
was somewhat better and having the MK67 out I tried again on this pair,
using the 10mm plossl (180x). But again no split...
Did I look at the wrong star
with the C11 last week? I start to doubt...
Ambience:
Epsilon posed like a real beautiful model before the C11 this time. The ease of seeing the secondary, its brightness and "enormous" distance from the primary make it hard to beleive that this pair can be so tough in less favourable conditions. A very rewarding view, which is rewarded with a drawing that will help remembering how pretty this model was.
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| Ron Bhanukitsiri | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 03/04/02 8:00pm PST (00:00 UT) Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Alpine, California, USA (elev. 2000ft) Site classification: Semi-Rural Sky darkness: 5.2 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 102mm Tele Vue 102 APO refractor Magnification: 44x, 73x, 110x, 146x, 176x |
Condition is calm clear
sky, mildly twinkling stars, light pollution from the western sky. (Saw
only E in Trapezium tonight). Under this sky, the TV-102 Light Cup
went on to chop off the head of Hydra the Snake ;-).
Only primary yellow star is seen at 44x (20mm TV Plossl). Secondary is detected at 73x (12mm TV Radian) in moment of steadiness. The secondary was just touching the primary at 110x (8mm Radian), pin pricked. A clean split at 146x, secondary color is also yellow. Best view at 176x with a wide separation. Forms almost a square with three dim stars GSC 224:951, GSC 224:715 and GSC 224:363. Being that Hydra's head is formed by the stars: rho, delta, eta and esilon, could it be that Hydra was sprouting a new head ;-)?
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| Patrick Thompson | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 7th March 2002, 19:55 UT Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: West Wickham, Kent, UK 51°23' N, 0°0'E Site classification: Suburban garden Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Moon: None Transparency: 8 <1 worst - 10 best> Temperature: º C Telescope: 8" Meade LX-90 SCT f/10 Eyepieces: 40mm and 26mm Meade Super Plossl, 13.8mm Meade SWA, 8.8mm Meade UWA Magnification: 50x, 80x, 145x, 230x Rating: 3 <1(best) - 5(worst)> |
Nice background field @50x.
Trapezium of stars to W including STF 1273 (not observed).
Could not split @80x. Definite elongation @145x just N of W with occasional brief glimpses of much dimmer secondary. Then, in a moment of still air, clear, definite, separation for about 2 seconds. Primary yellowish white. No colour evident in secondary. This was difficult (DI 93.6)
due to the large magnitude difference, but ultimately very rewarding. Higher
magnification didn't really help with this one.
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| William Schart | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 11th, March, 2002, 8:08 pm CST Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Killeen, TX, USA. Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Celestar 8" SCT Magnification: 80x, 120x, and 200x, 160x (CMG)
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A tough nut to crack! At low power there seemed to be a bit of elongation, although probably not enough to have noticed if I wasn’t looking for it. At mid power I could see a small, faint, but definate bump a bit north of west; this was comfirmed at high power. However, all in all I thoght that the best view was at mid power. The primary was a creamy, pale yellow, with no chance of observing color on the secondary. | |||
| Tim Leese | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 13 March 2002, 20:15 UT. Seeing: 5-6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Northwich, Cheshire. UK. (53° 15' N -2º 33' W). Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 3.0//4.2 ( UMi ) <Limiting magnitude> Conditions: High drifting misty haze, like aircraft trails. Low to moderate breeze. Telescope: 200mm f/6 Newtonian reflector. Mount: Vixen GP Eyepieces: 20mm plossl, 9mm & 6mm orthoscopics Magnification: X60,X133,X200 |
On the 11th March I failed
to split this star using my 80mm refractor
at X80 and X160. The DI of 94.34 ( ladic ) was very similar to STF 950 ( DI 94.52 ) which I could split without a problem using both X80 and X160. Over an hour both doubles were observed, to compare the views, but the primary for epsilon Hydra was just too bright for the close companion to be seen. A tough one to crack with
a small telescope, well worth the effort if
13th March 2002.
Using X200 revealed what
appeared to be a pale purple companion (in
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| Steve Bodin | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 15 March, 9-11pm local Seeing: 4->2 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Silverdale WA USA 47ºN 123ºW Site classification: Suburban Sky darkness: 6.0 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: Celestron C 8 Eyepiece: Eyepiece: Video camera PC164C, 3X teleconverter Magnification: Full TV screen 0.046 degrees equal to appx 1000x visual, but that depends on how far or near one stands to the TV. |
Previously observed during
the winter Olympics. Still difficult to see or image in poor air. The new
camera showed the companion easily and I placed the apodizing mask, made
from concentric circles of window screen, on the scope since I had plenty
of light to work with. This sharpened the image noticeably as has been
my experience using it in poor seeing. Measured: 2.54 sec, PA 299 deg.
The poor weather split on
15 March for a few hours. The sky was very dark and transparent due to
all the rain ,and some snow, that cleaned out the air. Comet Ikeya-Ziang
was an easy naked eye object and nice in any small RFT or binocular. I
tried my 11x70 binocs, 4 inch RFT and 60mm Meade ETX and they all gave
similar views. Hydra was not high enough in the sky during the early evening
so time was spent in Orion viewing the sights. Air steadiness was only
a 4/10 and signs of clouds advancing on horizon so on to the snake! Time
to check out my new video camera from Supercircuits; a PC164C with a lux
rating of 0.003, should be 2 magnitudes more than my PC23 with a rating
of 0.04 lux.
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| Glen Chapman | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 18/03/02 20.40 UT -8h Seeing: 4 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Sydney, Australia Site classification: Urban Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude> Moon: 3 days old Sky condition Clear though heavy humidity and extreme might temperatures. Temperature: 30ºC Telescope: 8" Dobsonian Magnification: 100X, 220X and 360X
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Primary notes as white to
pale yellow. Secondary offered no colour. Observed a number of times during
improving conditions. Initially 360x was need to spot slight elongation.
By the end of the evening 220x show a clear image of both stars. Offering
a very rewarding view of the 3.3mag primary and 6.4mag secondary.
Notes: Found in the head
of the Hydra. This easy to locate star will present a challenge to most
scopes under 10" Persistence is the key in anything but the best sky conditions.
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| John M. Ryan | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: Wednesday March 20, 2002 Seeing: 6+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Barreras, Salamanca, Spain. Site classification: Rural,Suburban. Sky darkness: 4+ <Limiting magnitude> Moon: 3/8's moon shining brightly Telescope: Meade 7" Mak Cas Mount: Losmandy GM8 Magnification: 300X and 84X |
I found Epsilon with the
32mm at 84X but there was no hint of the secondary. I put the 9mm Nagler
into the diagonal with care because this eyepiece is like a small grenade,
it is big and heavy. The view was fantastic; I noted a clear diffraction
ring around the primary and after everything settled down and I calmed
down I found the secondary sitting just outside the diffraction ring of
the primary. The secondary had a dim diffraction ring and the sight had
the effect of a snowman with the two diffraction rings in contact. There
was a clear split and I stayed with this quite a while to enjoy the view.
I was wondering if I could have split it with the 63mm Telementor but I
didn't think so. Both components were white and I gave it a rating of 1.
Ambience: After about 10 days of a low pressure system centered over Spain this last week a high pressure system came in to give us some clear weather. I was able to get out to the village last Wed and Thurs to get in some observing time. Spring has arrived and all the trees are in flower and the countryside is a brillant green with the rain we had. The weather was very mild to observe and the only downside was that some farmer nearby had sold off some of his bigger calves and the cows were bawling the whole night looking for their offspring but that is life on the farm. I had noted from the Hydra
Data that Epsilon has the highest DI rating and that some of the group
had trouble splitting this double. The seeing looked favorable and I decided
to set up the Meade 7" Mak Cas on the Losmandy GM8 with a 9mm Nagler to
give me a magnification of 300X. The Meade Mak Cas has excellent optics
and I would compare it somewhere between a 5" to 6" AP refractor. At least
I have the right to think that. The longer focal length of 2670mm of the
Mak Cas would help to split the double.
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| Luis Balanzino | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: Wed March 20, 2002 20h to 22h UT Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 8 <1 worst - 10 best> Location of site: Göteborg, Sweden 57°43' N, 11°58' E Site classification: Suburban area with moderate light pollution. Temperature: 5º C Sky darkness:4.5 <Limiting magnitude> Moon: Present age 6,75d Telescope: Russian TAL-1 equatorial reflector 110mm f/7.3 Eyepieces: 25mm and 12.5mm TAL Super Plossl, 15mm TAL Kellner, 3x TAL Barlow Magnification: 32x, 54x, 97x, 161x, 193x |
WDS sep 2,6" P.A. 302º
This is a well known star, the brightest in the Hydra's head. I supposed the challenge, close pair and considerable bright difference. And well, be optimistic and let's go! But the result is clear: unable to split this double even at 193x and with hexagonal mask. May be too close for this scope? At less I can argue that the star was quite low in the sky.
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| Jose Fernández | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 21 and 23 March 2002 Seeing: 2"-2".5 Transparency: <1 worst - 10 best> Location of site: El Aingliru, Asturias (Spain), 1570 m over sea level. Site classification: Rural Sky darkness:<Limiting magnitude> Moon: Over horizon Telescope: Stellarvue 102 mm f6.1 Eyepieces: Ultima 7.5mm and 5 mm Magnification: 83x, 123x |
I have observed this star
during two different nights because I could not believe that on the first
night I could split it at 83x during some moments and perfectly at 123x.
Reading the observations in the group web page a very big variability in the magnification necessary to split it can be observed. On the second night after photographing the comet I-Z I aim to epsilon Hydra. The seeing was like in the previous night among 2"-2".5, I split it almost continually at 83x and perfectly at 123x. Primary yellowish white and no colour in secondary. Luis has told me of the existence
of an very interesting article in S&T April of 2001 signed by Sissy
Haas. According to her comments with their double refractor 5" f10 she
is unable to split epsilon Hydra. In this article we can see a formula
proposed by the double observer Manuel Cortes from Spain to calculate the
necessary minimum opening to separate doubles with an difference of magnitude.
In this expression only two parameters are involved (separation and magnitude
diference), but in my opinion the experience won in this group demonstrates
that the seeing and the optic quality of the instrument are fundamental
parameters in the capacity of splitting doubles. Not only the optic quality
influences but it is also very probable that the optic design does it.
For this reason these "empiric" rules are correct as a first approach because
they are adjusted to particular conditions that cannot be extrapolated
to all the observers and their telescopes. In the article there is
another rule calculated by Thomas Lewis
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| Kevin Barker | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 24th March, 2002 Seeing: 8-9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Auckland, New Zealand. Site classification: Suburban Backyard Sky darkness: <Limiting magnitude> Moon: Gibbous moon in sky. Telescope: Zeiss APQ 100/1000 Mount: Zeiss Ib mount, setting circles. Eyepieces: Zeiss 0.965” orthoscopics, 4, 6, 8 and 12.5 mm, H 40, Zeiss 4 ocular turret. Magnification: 125x Star: Epsilon Hydrae
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Needed 125 X.
Uneven.
Yellow and White/yellow although at 166 X secondary appeared blue at times. Contrast effect maybe??? No sign of third star although my skies are hardly dark. A nearby race course does not help!!!??. Very uneven. Altitude of star when observed approximately 35 degrees. At 166 X double apparent 50 % of the time. At 250 X 100 % of the time. PA quoted seems about right. |
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| Richard Harshaw | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 01:30 UT, April 10, 2002 Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Kansas City, Missouri (USA) 39º 15N, 94º 30W 980 ft above Mean Sea Level Site classification: Suburban Sky conditions: Telescope: Celestron C-11 Eyepiece: 15mm LV, 9mm LV, 25mm Plossl Magnification: 193x, 339x, 115x |
I split Epsilon
Hya with my C-8 in the early 1990's and noted in my logs that the primary
was Yellow, the companion greenish-white, and the third star undetermined.
(The third star you allude to is 12.40 mag, 19 sec out at PA 195, increasing.)
Tonight, using the C-11, and early in the evening (less than an hour after sunset), in skies I would rate as 6 for seeing and 8 for transparency, I split Eps with 339x and a diffraction mask. Knowing now where to spot the companion, I removed the mask and still got it. Then I dropped to 193x, and finally to 115x, seeing B clearly at all magnifications. I would say tonight though that it looked to be pale orange. The C star was easily seen, but again, color not determined. Struve discovered the ABxC pair (at 3.2" in PA 196) in 1830. In 1912, Bowyer measured it at a PA of 240. Heintz has an orbit of 890 years. A is also a spectroscopic binary (9.9047 day period) and an infra-red source. Schapparelli split A into 4.5 and 5.0 mag stars 0.2" apart in pa 142. Aitken computed a 15.3 year period for the AB pair. Webb said it was a remarkable
system and noted colors of yellow and blue.
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| Mary Flanagan | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 12 Apr 2002 09:18 CDT Seeing: 6.5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Transparency: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Apple Valley MN, USA 93d 14m 25s W; 44d 45m 17s N Site classification: Suburban Sky conditions: Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude> Telescope: 12.5" f/5 Dobsonian Magnification: 106x |
No luck.
Ambience: I was beginning
to think it would never happen, but I finally got out last
Note to self: it's a good
idea to plug the cable back in after unsnarling it.
There's not too much ambience
in a suburban townhouse setting, but some time
Along with the Hydra doubles
and a couple of galaxies, I threw in a favorite
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| Dave Moore | ||||
| Star:
Epsilon Hydrae
Date & Time: 16th April 2002: 22.36 BST Seeing: --- <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)> Location of site: Charminster, Bournemouth, Dorset, UK (51 N 1 W) Site classification: Urban Sky darkness: 4.2 <Limiting magnitude>. Bortle: 8/10 Telescope: Meade LX-90 Eyepieces: 30mm and 12.5mm Celestron Ultima, 8mm Televue Radian Magnification: 67x, 160x, 250x |
Only appears
slightly elongated at 67x. A strong creamy-white colour
is present. Split at 160x, although the secondary is fainter, there is quite a big difference in magnitude between the two components. At this magnification, the glow from the bright primary is quite overwhelming. There is no improvement to the view at 250x. |
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