M65 / M66 / NGC3628


Bob Hogeveen
Galaxies: M65 / M66 / NGC3628
Date & Time: April 3, 2002
Sky darkness: 4.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Transparency: 6 <1 worst - 10 best>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands
53ºN, 6ºE
Site classification: Village backyard: 
Telescope: Intes MK67
Eyepieces: 30m Ultima, 20mm TV plossl,
12mm Nagler 
Magnification: 60x, 90x, 150x
 
M65 and M66 are bright and easy to find galaxies. A semi-circle of bright stars 2.5° south of Theta Leo somewhat embrazes the two galaxies. On good nights they can be spotted with a good bino (especially the brightest of them, M66).

With the 30mm Ultima (60x) All three galaxies can be seen within 1 FOV. But this night is not good for galaxies and NGC3628 can only be glimpsed with averted vision. The 20mm TV (90x) darkens the background and makes the galaxies better visible, M65 and M66 are still within 1 FOV, but NGC3628 is too far away and remains a very faint elongated blob. Then I jumped into space with the 12mm Nagler... With 150x it gives the same FOV as the 20mm TV. The galaxies become better defined. Unfortunately M65 and M66 are not that close, so they sit on opposite sides of the field. The impression of "double galaxy" is lost at this magnification. One FOV away NGC3628 can be seen much better. With averted vision a long narrow streak of faint light shows up, a much better sight than with the other EP's.
Rating for this group: 2


 
John M. Ryan 
Galaxies: M65 / M66 / NGC3628
Date & Time: Tuesday April 9, 2002, 23:30 UST
Sky darkness: 5+ <Limiting magnitude>
Transparency: --- <1 worst - 10 best>
Seeing: 5+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Barreras, Salamanca, Spain.
Site classification: Rural, Surbanban
Conditions: Light clouds, calm
Temperature: ~ 8º C. 
Telescope: 12.5" Truss Tube Dob
Eyepieces: 19mm panoptic 
Magnification: 83X
These two galaxies are easy to find in the belly of the lion. I am not as familiar with these but the view in the 12.5" of the two were very good. As the list shows these are "easy" galaxy doubles to split. Also was not aware ot NGC 3628 so did not try to find this one. Will also have to return to this site again. Rating 3.

Further coments:

Fourteen years ago when I arrived in Spain I noticed that you could actually see stars all over the sky and not just the two or three that a person could see in the skies over Chicago. I then bought a cheap chinese 80mm refractor and began the hobby of astronomy in earnest.

A few years later I moved up to an 8" Meade LX10 SCT. The 8" has been the largest scope that I have owned and also has been the only semi-large scope that I have ever looked through. Two years ago I had the idea of building a 12.5" truss tube Dobsonian. Being an engineer and also handy with tools I decided to have a go at building the Dob. Last year when I was in the states I took delivery of an excellent 12.5 primary mirror that a fellow in California made for me. The secondary and focuser were over the counter items that I bought in the states and I decided that this would be a good project for this last winter.

After the Christmas holidays I started buying all the material and began building the Dob which was finished about two weeks again when naturally the weather turned bad. 

Last week I had the chance to get out on two marginal  nights to try out the new self built scope. The first night I had to work for a couple of hours to adjust the lenght of the tubes to get into the area of focus. The second night after a quick collimation I was ready and a little nervous but the Dob funcioned to almost perfection. The seeing was poor but I had no trouble with Castor and the trapazium in Orion. I then went to Jupiter and Saturn and noticed that the sight of these planets were much brighter than through any of my other scopes. I then wanted to try for the galaxy doubles M81, 82 and M65, 66. M81 and 82 are old friends and when I got these in the field of view of a 19mm panoptic I couldn't believe how much more detail of these galaxies I could see compared to the previous views that I remember in my other scopes. Not too surprising seeing that this scope with a good mirror is almost 150% larger in area than the 8" SCT. 

On doubles, the Zeiss Telementor gave a much better resolution of Castor than the Dob which is affected much more with the seeing. The Dob will be better for the dim deep sky objects and the Telementor and the TeleVue 101 refractors will be the work horses for the moon, planets and the doubles. I am very happy with the results of the truss tube Dob and I realize with better collimation and seeing I will have a real gem. I have not caught up with Eddy in Australia in size yet but who knows what I might get myself into next.
 


 
Mary Flanagan
Star: M65 / M66 / NGC3628
Date & Time: 13 Apr 2002 12:26 CDT
Seeing: 6.5 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Transparency: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Apple Valley MN, USA
 93d 14m 25s W; 44d 45m 17s N
Site classification: Suburban 
Sky conditions
Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude>
Telescope: 12.5" f/5 Dobsonian 
Magnification: 50x, 106x
Comments: I was facing into too much light to do much with these; I couldn't 
see more than the thinner shape of M65 compared to M66, and needed averted 
vision to see that much.  No luck at all with NGC 3628; the field matched but 
the galaxy didn't happen. Low surface brightness compared to the other two; 
it needs a darker observing spot.
 
 
 
 

 


 
Steve Bodin 
Star: M65 / M66 / NGC3628
Date & Time: 4 and 5 Mar 2003 10 pm to midnight
Seeing: 3 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: good
Location of site: Silverdale WA, USA
47N 123W
Site classification: suburb-rural
Conditions: temp 40F, some wind
Sky darkness: 5.7 <Limiting magnitude> 
Telescope: Celestron C8
Eyepieces: 24mm koenig
Additional: DX-8263SL video camera at f2.3
Magnification: : app. 80x f2.3 and visual
 
Usual suspects of early spring, but only the central regions seen visually.Using the video camera at x128 intergration showed the nuclear region to bequite yellow again. The faint outer regions showed fairly well. The same twosubjects captured with the Bigdog were well seen as spirals, but too far apartto image at the same time. NGC 3628 is of much lower surface brightness and didnot show up in the C8 video, but was quit easy in the Bigdog.

The DX-8263SL camera is really amazing, Just a little post processing and viewsthrough the C8 are better than anything in the Bigdog visually. Double the aperature for $250! best deal in the cosmos!
 

  
 

 
Bob Hogeveen
Galaxies: M65 / M66 / NGC3628
Date & Time: February 26, 2004 - 23.00 LT
Sky darkness: 4 <Limiting magnitude>
Transparency: 6 <1 worst - 10 best>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands
53ºN, 6ºE
Site classification: Village backyard: 
Telescope: Intes MK67
Eyepieces: 40mm Pentax XL
Magnification: 45x
 
 
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