M51 / NGC 5195


 
Bob Hogeveen
Galaxies: M51 /  NGC5195
Date & Time: April 4, 2002 - 23.00 
Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Transparency: 6 <1 worst - 10 best>
Seeing: 8 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands
53ºN, 6ºE
Site classification: Village backyard: 
Telescope: Intes MK67
Eyepieces: 30m Ultima, 20mm TV plossl,
12mm Nagler 
Magnification: 60x, 90x, 150x
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Galaxies: M51 /  NGC5195
Date & Time: April 5, 2002 - 23.00 
Sky darkness: 5.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Transparency: 8 <1 worst - 10 best>
Seeing: -- <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Annen, The Netherlands
53ºN, 6ºE
Site classification: Village backyard: 
Telescope: Celestron C11
Eyepieces: 30m Ultima, 20mm TV plossl, 12mm Nagler
Magnification: 90x, 140x, 230x

 

An MK67 is not a C11, so the view of this galaxy-pair is not that spectacular when using the MK67. Nevertheless it is also with this modest scope a real favourite of mine. Every time I observe M51 I am reminded at the first time I actually saw the companion. It was some years ago on a holiday in the Provence (Southern France) with its very clear and very dark skies. I used the 80mm Swarovski spottingscope then and was really enthouiastic about that view.

With the MK67 both galaxies show well at all magnifications, but no structure can be seen besides the small, bright cores.

The 20mm TV plossl (90x) gives the best defined view of this pair. Both galaxies show a bright roundish area around the core and with averted vision a dark band can be seen in between them (real fuzzy splitting). With the 30mm Ultima the sky-background becomes considerably more light, which disturbes the view. The brightness of the surface of both galaxies seems to be sensitive to magnification, because they become more faint when they are blown up to 150x with the 12mm Nagler. Still the spacey view of the Nagler is more spectacular than the somewhat narrow views of the other EP's. The galaxies become real large and seem to float in space because of the enormous FOV. 
Rating for this pair: 1
 
 
 
 

The magn. 12.5 foreground star mentioned by Richard was obvious at first glimpse with the 30mm Ultima. It is located at ~2' SW of the core of M51. A careful study of the surface of M51 with the 20mm TV plossl and the 12mm Nagler showed signs of the spiral structure. A first impression is that the surface is mottled. Better darkness adaptation reveals a sort of circular tendency in the structure, but very undefined. In the end a few dark and light arced areas become perceptable. I was able to locate parts of the spiralarms and the dark spaces in between that were confirmed afterwards by pictures of the galaxy. Wow! I was pleased with that!
The 20mm TV plossl confirmed to be my real Galaxy Grabber on the C11. This EP gave the best view of the surface and the spiralstructure. The 12mm Nagler did a very good job on the cores. The high magnification of 230x showed the difference in the two galaxies extremely well. M51 has a bright roundish core of about 30", somewhat diffuse and of almost uniform brightness. NGC5195 has a very bright pinpoint stellar core, with a bright area around it, gradually merging with the surrounding outer regions of the galaxy.
 


 
William L. Schart 
Star: M51 /  NGC5195
Date & Time: 6/14/02, 11:30 pm CDT
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Location of site: Killeen, TX, USA
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 3.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Telescope: Celestron 8" SCT
Eyepieces: 25mm, 17mm, 10mm EPs
Magnification

 

Although these are getting into the western sky, where the worst light pollution for me lies, I still could see them easily. There were two distinct if somewhat faint cores surrounded by a very faint haze. With averted vision, I could pick up some hints of the spiral structure.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


 
Steve Bodin 
Star: M51 /  NGC5195
Date & Time: 4 and 5 Mar 2003 10 pm to midnight
Seeing: 3 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: good
Location of site: Silverdale WA, USA
47N 123W
Site classification: suburb-rural
Conditions: temp 40F, some wind
Sky darkness: 5.7 <Limiting magnitude> 
Telescope: Celestron C8
Eyepieces: 24mm koenig
Additional: DX-8263SL video camera at f2.3
Magnification: : app. 80x f2.3 and visual
Visually in the C8 just a dull glow, no sign of spiral structure at all. Withthe video camera set at x128 integration, the nuclear regions of both were veryyellow , but the outer areas were faint. Post process of 52 frames of videostacked using Registax showed the spiral structure well, better than any viewwith the Bigdog 17 DOB. However, the color saturation was not as great as seenon the tv monitor in real time, probably something to do with not enough bitdepth in the USB capture device.


   

 
 
 
Wouter van Reeven 
Star: M51 /  NGC5195
Date & Time: May 2, 2003,
00:15 CEST - 01:35 CEST
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>. 
Transparency: r
Location of site: Utrecht, the Netherlands
Site classification
Conditions
Sky darkness:  <Limiting magnitude> 
Instrument: 7x50 binos 
Eyepieces: 25 mm Ortho, 12 mm Ortho
Magnification: 40x, 80x
Even fainter than M106, but still visible! No wonder I couldn't see this
one in my binos :-( The two cores of M51 and its companion were visible,
but that was about it...

  
   
 
 

   
 
 
 

 



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